While the hardware options will undoubtedly play a factor in your decision to lean towards one or the other here, the companion apps and wider ecosystem are even more important. I have a super little Garmin gadget (500), does exactly what I currently need. There's also a skin temperature sensor and continuous electrodermal activity sensor to detect stressful moments. A gps has a 3m horizontal accuracy and this blows out to 30m for the vertical accuracy. The competition element is easy to understand and is more credible (the best cyclists in your local area are more likely to show up on Strava than MapMyRide). The free version stil has adverts though (I cant complain too hard theres probably a display ad just below this paragraph). Any help please. Gorilla-fitnesswatches.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn income through advertising and linking to Amazon.com and its partners. I started at full power and after 200 meters the 1030 said I was 11 seconds ahead. (All of the MapMyFitness apps allow you to choose the workout type; you dont need all of them.) Lets start with the simple one. GPS location is calculation based upon satellite signals/locations and it has a little noise in it, this doesnt make much difference to distance but it makes a bigger difference to altitude. The recorded track looks fine, and at the end of the segment you can see the time of the segment, and this time is right. I havent looked too hard at it, but Im not always sure which data source is correcting which (the altimeter in the Garmin vs the elevation data in the mapping software). Ill amend the article. My comparison is based on the following criteria: Yes, I know were all mobile first these days. During the first km it seems I was 8 seconds ahead of my PB. I think it depends on whether your GPS has a barometric altimeter. Map my fitness gives me distance or time voice coaching and I can set a lot more metrics than strava gives. Adherence to design principles makes enhances usability and good usability equals good user experience. As for inacuracies, at worst my garmin seems to be 5-10m out (and for soem reason, consistent, i.e. did lakes last week i had 4800 feet on strava Phones generally receive Bluetooth info, though some support ANT+, and they're listed here. park in the city. I have been off the bike for a long time due to injury, and during that time have been hiking a lot, using MapMyHike. Note that such post as yours doesn't fit the Garmin's perfect world of only satisfied customers so you will most likely receive some negative reception here or the thread will be locked / censored by admins. Shop our selection of Garmin heart rate monitors, cycling monitors, and more today to save money on a brand that knows how people like you exercise. Garmin devices may be used with a chest strap to read your, While some support chest straps to directly, We have a wide range of Garmin heart rate monitors and cycle computers, including the Garmin Forerunner 920XT and. HR MMR used to have league tables for courses and segments but I remember it being very muddled (frinstance, you got more points for riding a given course more frequently). Give the gift that keeps on delivering every week, Every issue delivered direct to their door. They smell the same.). Challenges it is. The process for getting ride data into either MapMyRide or Strava is: Step 1 should only need to be done once (although, PSA time, sudden syncing issues can often be resolved by disconnecting and reconnecting the two apps). Ride with GPS. I rode many centuries last summer and a double century also last summer (STP 206 miles in one day) and the calorie count Strava gave was ridiculously low. Each Swytch V2 e-bike conversion kit, Ritchey Swiss Cross 50th, BikeYoke saddles and stem, Rox returns and PMBA race entries. Just search the forum how many people complains about this and usual answer is "for 95 % of us it is good enough, if you are not satisfied, buy another device. April 2010 Swim CHAT with Coach Kevin Koskella, Upload Your Workout Data to BT's Training Log, April BT Chat with Tri Coach Kevin Konczak. I think we should consider other alternatives as well, a nice comparison is here: http://www.pinkbike.com/u/botond/blog/bike-route-planning.html. But for fewer hardcore users the choice isn't so easy. I have just returned from my trip down said hole. Some of the detailed analytics are only available on the website. As with Fitbit, we have a comprehensive look at how to run better with Garmin Connect and a Garmin Connect IQ app store guide, but we'll skim through the highlights here. Over that distance I generally get a lot of match ups with other recordings etc. Strava is better but I still prefer RideWithGPS (I use the free version). Search for routes that others have done or planned and you will see if it works for you. The low GPS accuracy is unfortunately more a characteristic of the F6 than a bug.. Glonass or Galileo have mainly only one effect - higher battery drain without accuracy increase. Those are the main app platforms. No doubt that person will let me know in the comments. In terms of wearables (not a term I feel comfortable using as a 41-year-old), you can have it as an app on Apple Watch, and devices (smartwatches I guess) that use Android Wear or Samsung Gear. I prefer the segments of Strava and the social aspect, but occasionally use MapMyRide to do a new route. Jeff alluded to it saying he exports GPX data from his Fitbit, but I wanted to make it clear that your point regarding Stravas device compatibility is rather misleading. If youre bothered about <30second segments then thats a problem, but I only really keep an eye on the longer 5 minute+ ones as theyre a more realistic guage of fitness/skill/balls anyway. MapMyRide on the other hand, whilst less feature rich overall, is less skewed towards the paid version. It usually make more harm than good. Without any data to look at youll find that they probably ARE that much faster. Its generally all quite useful, interesting and, most importantly, you can use it to make informed decisions about your training. It sometimes has jumps in timing which as stated can either improve or worsen your segment times significantly. The Apple Watch has a new heart rate sensor that is more accurate than before. MapMyRide does not. It looks like development on MMR stopped in about 2013 (which is coincidentally-not-coincidentally when Under Armour they of the magnificent tight undercrackers bought it). Currently, ConnectIQ is also stronger than what Fitbit offers if you're looking to boost and personalize your device, though the Versa is an admirable step toward leveling that playing field. Strava seems to be throwing up figures between 10% and 19% higher than Garmin. Im not in the US so the challenges from MMR are never appropriate to me. With one eye on those that are pushing the limits of their bodies, the Garmin Venu 2 will also monitor energy levels via its Body Battery feature. Fitbit's Sense watch ups the ante with an EDA scan app (found on Fitbit Sense and Charge 5) that can detect electrodermal activity, which may indicate your body's response to stress. Live location tracking (for friends and relatives to dot watch whilst youre out on a ride), Various additional analyses (heart rate, power, cadence), Route Genius the mapping feature that automatically generates a route based on how far you want to go, Interval training with audio prompts (I think this is more a running feature), More detailed league tables for segments (which used to be a free feature), Beacon (live location tracking for friends/relatives), Personal heatmaps (see where you ride a lot by different coloured roads). I like to see all my positions on the Strava segments, but I then export the data back to RideWithGPS (see below its my primary route planning tool). He is a new Sports Bike rider, and he like myself like the Maps from MapMyRide, because you do not need to share your profile to post the map links in other venues. Or nicer road bike? It allows me to ensure my pace and optimal speed. Over time, the features offered by both apps have broadened to include: As iscest normalthese days, both MMR (we rilly wanna save those fingers) and Strava have paid subscription versions. My bike was stolen last night. This data can show you if you're getting sick or under the weather, which is a feature no other platform can offer. Strava vs MapMyRide, in some sort of app-ocalyptic battle to establish which is best ride tracking software. You should also point out that every time MapMyRide has made a change to their site for the last two years, it has made the site WORSE, not better. Save time! If you have an Apple Watch or some other wearable, well, youll just have to take your chances. With phones and apps becoming ever smarter, is the humble cycling computer out dated? These are links to online stores such as Amazon, Wiggle and Chain Reaction. So the answer, really, is that a cycling computer is the best option. I Etc. I use a fitbit pedometer and mapmyride automatically sends details of my rides to the fitbit website to correct the step count for the day and add the cycling to my daily activity. I adhered to the diet based on mapmyride, NOT Strava. Maybe worth looking up if youre interested. The Venu 2 is similar to the Vivoactive 4 but with an AMOLED display. try uploading to Garmin connect for a comparison, maybe? The Wahoo app allows me to upload to MMR and Strava. They are designed specifically for cycling and to record all of your data - not to mention using cycling apps as your data recording device does use cell phone battery.". Strava uses its own basemap looking up the elevation for each point you record. I know its 2 miles as Ive measured it in Memory Map and with my bike computer and a garmin. Chest straps are not available on Apple watches. If you are a real fan of smartwatches just like me then this is the best place for you to get knowledge. Even the fairly handy local riders are looking a bit lack lustre. Here I can only speak to the iPhone app. The photoplethysmography concept is used by the optical heart monitor on the rear of your smartwatches. Then, in September 2020, Strava started reintroducing BLE heart rate sensor support for some users of the app. http://www.mikepalumbo.com/MMRConverter/index.php, http://www.pinkbike.com/u/botond/blog/bike-route-planning.html. Do you have the tablet attached to the handlebars, or packed away with the volume turned up high? I've made a small comparison of altitude (uphill and downhill) accuracy of different tools for tour planning. The Fenix 7 (47mm) comes in standard and Pro versions. This either tells you the whole story (Ive voted with my very-difficult-to-get-at Yorkshiremans wallet) or that I havent given MapMyRide a fair crack of the whip because Ive not tried out the premium features. Strava allows you to correct elevation on a file created using a cycling computer by clicking the little blue button underneath the elevation number. ride 1,000 miles in January). What's more, top-end Garmin's can adapt your heart rate zones by using your Lactate Threshold scores determined from fitness tests with a chest strap that's a level of detail way beyond most users' needs, but also beyond Fitbit's skill set. The company just released the Fitbit Inspire 3, its entry-level tracker, which is brimming with features, including heart rate, SpO2, temperature sensor, and a color screen. I compared it to Harvard School of Medicines calorie burn charts and MMR is almost right on, while Strave is ridiculously low. Strava has recently undergone a management shake-up and a refocusing on the apps core function (to make moneyto help everyday athletes reach their full potential). Good afternoon! The data provided at the end was quite different in time, mileage, speed (average and maximum), calories burned and inclines etc. When compared to its Fitbit counterpart, more serious exercisers will find little comparison Garmin gives you an incredibly detailed look at your activity once you head into the Performance Stats section of the app. Edge 1030 never loses the segment but the comparative times in real time are not accurate at all. It includes Dolby Vision HDR and quantum dot Wide color gamut Unless you measure it you wont know You can rely on these GPS sports watches to keep you on track with your fitness goals, whether youre training with the Garmin Forerunner 230 or competing with the Garmin Forerunner 35. Im a runner and its in my arm. No doubt that person will let me know in the comments. Be aware that the majority of the tools that fall into the data analytics bucket are paid premium features (but then so are many of the more limited features on MMR). I know how hard I work on a ride, and the Strava energy value seems ridiculously low. The elevation in Strava calculates the total gain in your ride, where MMR only states the net gain across the entire ride. want to see about their rides/activities. Using GPS on a phone will rinse through the battery, Elemnt Bolt shares its functionality with the original Elemnt, with an aero edge, Strava can 'correct elevation' but it uses its basemap, generated from cycling computer data, Stages Power meters, and many others, use ANT+, Classified raises 22M Euros in funding, expands into e-bike market, Theres a cycling horror movie, and it looks scarily bad. Not sure about the solution. Gorgeous ride in the woods today. Lets run through the things that matter when making your selection. Modern heart rate monitoring technology, on the other hand, may not provide more accuracy in heart rate monitoring, as we describe in this article. It smells better*. The Ace 2 is also worth a shout, which is its fitness tracker designed for kids. So thats what, 1-2 seconds? period. Cycling Weekly is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. It is easier to use. Contact UsPrivacyForum RulesClassifieds RulesLink RemovalLogin/cookie issues?Newsletter SettingsAdvertising, Viewing 36 posts - 1 through 36 (of 36 total). If it doesnt, Strava will calculate your elevation based on their elevation databases. Im currently using Strava and MapMyRide. Most people reading this blog will be rocking a bike GPS device to accomplish all their ride recording requirements (and if youre not, I heartily recommend the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt). There are broken image icons. Fitbit Charge 5, Inspire 3, Luxe and Versa are all set for the pool and devices can be calibrated for the pool. Best way how to see how wrong the accuracy can be is to make regular runs on small area, e.g. Your results are perfectly normal for F6 device.. Garmin has a much wider range of features and devices which come in different form factors and price points. Conor moved to Wareable Media Group in 2017, initially covering all the latest developments in smartwatches, fitness trackers, and VR. It's advantage Fitbit in this case. That's a fairly big difference which is not typical. So if you are a Fitbit user that is a really useful feature. This basemap was created using data from uploads made by users, riding with barometric altimeters. Although tracking heart rate using a fitness tracker or wristwatch is not new, photoplethysmography technology has advanced significantly to make such devices more accurate. I cannot rely on it. Strava auto-route-creation is based on the ride data of all its users (on the basis that cyclists will tend to use the best, safest roads in a given area, rather than riding down a motorway/highway/autobahn). However, I wonder how much data gets transmitted back and forth during the ride. try to ride a bike and you'll see you had a better accuracy because the watch was pointing up. Subscribe below and I will send you enjoyable and helpful cyclo-info straight to your inbox. The Strava app is similar, although in addition to distance, you can also specify how much elevation you want and the road surface (any/dirt/paved). In comparison, precisely measuring heart rate is quite simple. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The two efforts are pretty even, with a minimum difference of 1 or 2 seconds between them until I gave up. I started Sportive Cyclist in 2013 to record my journey to RideLondon 100, my first 100-mile bike ride. When your heart is beating, the flow of blood in your wrist increases, so the absorption of, Most Accurate Heart Rate Monitor The Apple Watch. (AFAIK), Accuracy in calorie (energy) burn is important to me. If, like me, you dont, well you dont. The MMR website feels tired and old. Its not exactly super clean in design terms. At some point we were running at 5:50/km while my watch was showing 7:30. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Cycling computers are purpose designed. We were able to track it Ohio man sentenced to 12 years in bicyclist's death. All you had to do is google this forum or reddit about f6 gps, heart rate accuracy and it'll become clear that it's bad. Usually they will match within a few seconds if all the parameters equal. Indeed, combined with an aero out front mount, the brand claimed it saves 12.6 seconds over a 40km time trial over the leading competitor. Vivofit/Vivomove: Vivofit is the company's fitness band while Vivomove is a hybrid smartwatch with analog hands but fitness tracking in the background. Whether you use Garmin, Strava, Nike Run Club or your devices tracking app, every runner I know relies on tech to measure their miles and pace. Funny funny, for me Strava was the less stable one it crashed way more often than MMR (after a crash it auto-recovers but it means youve lost part of your ride). iphone/android not brilliant. Once you get the hang of where everything is, the Strava website is pretty straightforward to use. On MMR there is a nice calendar with weekly monthly totals. I can see from the Zwift website that MapMyRide works in the same way. Monty is an enthusiastic road cyclist with only moderate talent. More expensive cycling computers are able to push your performance using built in tools, so it'll large come down to the type of cycling that you want to do. Over time the blog has expanded to include training advice, gear reviews and road cycling tales, all from the perspective of a not-very-fit MAMIL. There are Android and iOS apps, as well as Apple Watch, Android Wear and Samsung Gear. Elevation gain is off by 40 feet, even time is off by almost 2 minutes. With the Venu Sq 2, you're stepping things up on the tracking with dedicated modes for running, golf, pool swimming, and cycling. Strava on the other hand has loads of challenges. Take a look its great. Its hardly cutting edge in terms of design though (whether you want it be is perhaps a moot point). Strava is But just how big is the gap between the two groups when it comes to tracking various sports? Garmin has more charts, and more numbers but the app is far less user-friendly. That said, right now I can see a grand total of two challenges that I can sign up to (and both of them involve running?!). 2 traces will be shadows of each other, just a few meters appart). I don't have experience comparing apps (I only use Strava) but I've had experiences at high latitudes (above 60deg) where Strava falls back on a very, very "chunky" DEM, such that I could go on an almost entirely flat ride and Strava would tell me I climbed 3000m. Round my way, you pick a hill, any hill, and the chances are you get the KOM, IME, Strava is pretty inaccurate, but its all a laugh innit? I have about 200 plots in strava, but I can't load everything how to be? These days (the mobile first era), most bike GPS devices (and sports watches, if youre that way inclined) have a dedicated smartphone app. Today, I did my usual run commute route home, but this time, I had my Garmin Vivoactive 3 set to GPS+GLONASS and I set data recording to 1/s. Just used Strava for the first time, on a 2 mile run from my house. Thanks Jon. I have been using MMR and Strava simultaneously on some recent rides, and the elevation and calorie count varies significantly on both. Garmin is slow with changes, slow with fixes and generally lagging with features behind guys like Strava, Training Peaks and Sport Tracks. Jeff. Strava, on the other hand, starts with the Activity Feed. I just did three rides of 20 and 30 miles, and Strava once again was ridiculously low. Hi, I cant find/ get the route planner to work on MMR. She joined CW as an 'SEO Analyst', but couldn't keep her nose out of journalism and in the spreadsheets, eventually taking on the role of Tech Editor before her latest appointment as Digital Editor. A review of the Shimano 105 vesus SRAM Rival Time Trial component group differences. Thank you. Bluntly, Strava has more of this data than other apps (it used to sell it as a product to cities and other interested parties). Still love it thoughits great for measuring my own progress. Both feature SpO2 sensors that keep tabs on blood oxygen, which will also look at levels during sleep. From the dashboard page, I just clicked Create Route. It's also recently introduced the Stress Management score across its devices, which offers a single score generated from resting heart rate, sleep and activity logged. The difference is quite large on longer rides. Little coloured dots move along the map as it shows your relative positions as it moves along a segment. However, we have found accuracy issues with the Fitbit Charge 5. You pay the same price that you would have done anyway. You pay the same price that you would have done anyway. If it doesnt, Strava will calculate your elevation based on their elevation databases. Having used MMR for 2 years, I bought a FitBit Surge (for heart rate data) and found 1)its GPS gave me much more accurate route mapping than taking my iPod touch with me using the MMR app. Two wheels, or three, sometimes one, but never more than twenty. He has also contributed to British GQ, Wired, Metro, The Independent, and The Mirror. Lol. Strava struggles with loops; the Monkey has had several diversions over the last 12 months or so (due to trail repairs and tree-felling operations)some of the diversions have been fairly significant but Strava cant differentiate. Michelle Arthurs-Brennan is a traditional journalist by trade, having begun her career working for a local newspaper, where highlights included interviewing a very irate Freddie Star (and an even more irate theatre owner), as well as 'the one about the stolen chickens'. Step 2in most casesis automated once you hit End Ride on your GPS device. Perils of having local road rides on the same routes that a pro race happens on. These aren't the best-looking watches out there, and they're also not trying (or not trying very hard) to be; this is all about arming you with features, be it pre-workout, during your session, or afterward to give you a better insight. Mapmyride was almost always twice the calorie burn of Strava. I just wanted to plot a route on a map, get a time estimate and the follow that route with the app. Optical heart sensors also use infrared light. New products from Athlete 3, Fuji, Garmin, Kestrel, LiveStrong, Reynolds, Scott, Specialized, Shimano and Vision Tech. Elevation can be very wide of the mark, not entirely sure if Strava works it out based on their own algorithms and the route points, or takes the data from the device, in which case anything using GPS altitude is likely to be well off. Blame the ads for both. That VO2 Max score will feed into things like Training Effect and race predictors, which is a step above for those training for half and full marathons. Large difference on the total climb as well. I don't know if the algorithm of the 1030 is different, but it works worse. I think it plots the points then checks distance. Garmin has its own data processing on the device, so it's not easy to see the results of said processing. It is certainly the case that the paid version of MapMyRide is cheaper than Strava Premium. Wahoo is very much software-first, so the integration with popular ride tracking/training apps like Strava and MapMyRide is pretty seamless. I see this when doing short intervals that are captured by my Polar watch but completely ignored by NRC. So, if you randomly find yourself in the beta subset with access to this feature, you have BLE HRM support. Ive been using MMR for a few months but Im not impressed with the Wahoo RFKTR+ integration. You take a GPS device out on your ride to capture where you went. Accuracy of Strava -v- Garmin. Edited by jennifer_runs 2016-05-29 1:46 PM, Beginner Triathlete Mentor Program - FULL, Classifieds - New and Used Triathlon Gear. Michelle is on maternity leave from July 8 2022, until April 2023. You can use the free version to benefit your training without necessarily needing to upgrade (if stats and amateur science are not your bag). I find that Garmin connect has almost all of the functionality. Garmin says my bike ride top speed is 22.3 while Strava says 33.2 mph. By Anne-Marije Rook Then there's a myriad of others: Approach golf watches, Instinct outdoors watches, and many others. On the music features front, Garmin does offer offline playlist support for Spotify. To begin with, every Apple Watch has GPS, but not every Garmin does. Strava uses its huge database of peoples rides to pick the most popular cycle routes on your journey giving you the best ride it can. (*Okay, slipped that one in. This is my recent run, I was repeatedly running on the two roads that are about 20 - 40 m to each other and I run on the exact same side of the roads - there should be only two lines in optimal case. Very disappointing!n. Ask us your questions or meetup with other redditors in your area for local rides. Considerably better. The MMR app is somewhat better (although, again, the free version has adverts) but, overall, the design issues speak to a lack of investment and harm my enjoyment of using the tool. Strava would have had me on a dangerously low calorie diet. I think I can upload routes to my Edge 510 and have a cue sheet (albeit small) on the screen, but I havent tried it. You can look here to find less common data/training platform apps to help you sync data with Strava. This can cause for some very strange times as the time it took you to complete one loop is stretched over the actual segment distance which can include multiple loops. The fact I see so many Zwift rides from people that I follow in my Strava feed suggests its pretty straightforward. I prefer the design of both the Strava app and website I find both interfaces very easy to use. As the prices rise you get more features, more insights into your sports, and longer battery life. in continuous training mode, the Vantage series lasts 30 and 40 hours, depending on the model Garmin and Strava have different auto pause thresholds which gives you the difference in ride times and average speeds. Beyond that, youll want to check into the details of the thing youre thinking about buying. VO2Max - many users experience this. There are plenty of riding challenges (and, yes, loads of non-bike activities). I tried to cut the lead for a little while, but I couldnt do it, so I gave up. The Forerunner 255 is a major update to the Forerunner 200 series. Unfortunately I don't remember seeing this issue pointed out, so I clearly looked at the wrong place. Michelle is a road racer who also enjoys track riding and the occasional time trial, though dabbles in off-road riding too (either on a mountain bike, or a 'gravel bike'). One side observation - I use a garmin watch but upload my data into Strava as well as Garmin Connect. Depending on the watch, both include a variety of sports modes and have superb GPS accuracy due to using multiple satellites. The Versa 4 also offers 24/7 heart rate monitoring and high/low heart rate notifications, passive Afib detection (in the US only for now), monitoring blood oxygen levels during sleep, and also tracking skin temperature during sleep too. Strava live segments is an important feature for me, because it is really fun. But the website design speaks to a key fundamental difference between Strava and MapMyRide. Strava Live Segments issues (comparative times are not accurate). Heart rate monitors worn on the wrist are regarded to be less reliable. You can turn everything off apart from GPS to save battery and data and it will still track your ride, Blame the phone battery not the app. With this area encompassing so many different devices, it's hard to crown one company the winner when it comes to basic tracking. There's more emphasis placed on heart rate zones and VO2 Max and more advanced data spins of this in terms of training effect, load, stress, and recovery. There, Ive saved you need to make this point in the comments. (Surprisingly appealing) digital finishers badges are awarded if you meet the criteria for that challenge (e.g. Whenever I plot a route for a post (or a ride), I tend to do it on RideWithGPS. The point about speed accuracy is very interesting. Strava uses the GPS points recorded in the track log to work out Just try strava premium for a month and see if you like it. I find that Garmin connect has almost all of the functionality. I wouldnt bother using strava premium if I was just running. I use premium features (like power curve) for cycling activities though. Yeah, I'm a cyclist as well, and agree. Thankfully they now have a widget. Singletrack Camo Whamo Hoodie (small, medium only). I wanted to lose weight dieting while riding my bike. So, I gave up. Most phones seem to have fairly poor GPS in them. This. Conor has become a wearables expert, and helps people get more from their wearable tech, via Wareable's considerable how-to-based guides. Theres the proof. Plus exclusive interviews, fitness tips and product reviews. For example, I was trying to beat my PB this morning in a 2 km climb. Garmin Connect is (unsurprisingly) in line with the distance and lap times on my All rights reserved. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thats a heck of a run; I miss running Spring Garden, though I do get to Kelly sometimes from the west. https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/20965883-elevation-for-your-activity. For me it happens for very long activities (10+ hours. (and you should have). Under Armor is bigger and can pour money into support. Literally the only reason to even possibly use MMR is to create routes for free. I have not bought the MapMyRide MVP membership. It also has an app called Cue Sheet which with a 1.99 upgrade will read out the route planned on RideWithGPS (you can switch between miles and kilometers in km it tells you 300m and then 100m before a turn what is coming and at the actual turn tells you the distance and what happens at the next turn point). My first F150! Get enjoyable and helpful cyclo-info straight to your inbox. I have done a couple of 4-5 hour rides with Cue Sheet Reading out the route to me and Strava recording where I actually went. My former Vivoactive HR was much better. (I contacted support 3 months ago and they promised to make an attempt to add it back in a future upgrade, but Im not holding my breath). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. You hit the big green Start Workout button and youre away. Its only a guessing. One thing Strava has going for it is that it allows me to see Climb Ratings (1 5 and HC), although not in a particularly easy way. Imagine the blog post. However, if you buy into the Garmin mid-range Forerunners you will get even more data. Garmin lets users track their cycle, log symptoms, receive cycle predictions and fertile windows and get educational insights from their Garmin Connect app. (Though, as mentioned, I recommend RideWithGPS from a pure route creation usability perspective). Now. I dont know whether a 60-66% annual discount tells you these companies expect most people to cancel after 5 months. I've tried to change the GPS setup several times (GPS alone, with GLONASS or GALILEO) but to no avail. We take a look through different aspects of Garmin and Fitbit to see who does it best. it won't be fixed ever, because it's a hardware issue. By all means try them out to see if you like the look and feel of it, but its the features when you subscribe that provide the value. Both Fitbit and Garmin track your heart rate through sessions and offer information on the heart rate zone you're in, and improvements over resting heart rate - which is an indicator of improving fitness. Google Fit vs Garmin Connect: Which One Is Better? Here we've paired together obvious devices that you'd want to choose between - but remember Garmin has a huge array, so it's well worth checking out our full Garmin devices buying guide. However, reading your review I am tempted to try Strava and put up with the hassle of manually tranferring data between the sites! When I traveled to the holy of holy places. (but I do realize that running both apps at the same time might make them interfere with each other or have them compete for GPS signal, so Im taking this with a grain of salt). Also Garmin Lily is the company's 34mm fitness watch aimed at women. I have very often quite similar recordings with my F6 as Pompedup. Apple Watch measures your heart rate in the ambient using infrared light, and it measures heart rate during exercises and calculates heart rate variability with green LED lights. On the face of it, Strava has more of these available connections: BUT the thing is, all of these Get Started buttons on Strava are links to support posts that essentially say, Go into the other app. So I ran the exact same route, and my moving average speed calculated at 7:50 minutes/mile, while my Garmin calculated my moving average speed as 8:20 minutes/mile. But is there a benefit to using a dedicated cycling computer? Our testing has found Garmin's tracking to be slightly generous in terms of calculating sleep duration, and we'd say Fitbit has the edge. I hope this could be solved through a firmware update. Wahoo bike computers are designed to withstand the elements and crash scenarios that I would be scared to test my phone through, Hawkins says. I took a short segment (1.64 km) where i knew that the numbers are wrong and lidar data is freely available. Strava live segments is an important feature for me, because it is really fun. It features both ECG and continuous monitoring for Afib, SpO2, and stress tracking and the sleep monitoring is up there with the best on the market. Although electrocardiograph techniques have been in use for over a century, they are still not viable for usage even in a medical office. These are memories I will have for my entire life Press J to jump to the feed. Therefore I just wondered if other people have any thoughts on this. With the Ionic, Fitbit also launched an app store. When I was looking at it a couple of months ago, people in forums were suggesting that whilst you could upload the routes to the Edge ok (in a variety of ways: RideWithGPS, Garmin Connect etc), the difficulty was getting the cues to occur before the relevant turn or junction. I use NRC for the guided runs and Garmin/Strava for accurate tracking. When your heart is beating, the flow of blood in your wrist increases, so the absorption of green light increases. After my experience and MMRs new version 18.6, Im sticking with MMR I really dont care that Strava is used by tons of people. Resilience is a factor too. Stop eating junk mid ride!!! Long story longer: it all depends on your GPS device and whether the developers of the related app have chosen to use the Strava/MMR API to install a data pipe (technical term) back to your chosen ride analysis app. Computers also have a few more cycling specific applications like the ability to control additional items such as the Garmin Varia lights. If you Go Premium, then you get access to Route Genius on the app, which creates a circular route for you, based on the distance you put in. Or grab yourself some me-time and treat yourself! I knew that the altitude (uphill/downhill) is wrong, but i didn't expect to bee so bad. Garmin Vivosmart 5 vs Fitbit Charge 5. There's no GPS built-in, however. The problem is the gap between your actual effort and your PB. Follow your friends or follow professional athletes. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I dont believe the Strava numbers. Many new Smartwatches with various health monitoring capabilities have been released in the last few years. It feels like investment in MapMyRide has stopped. I can only assume it is down to the sampling rate. This never happened in Edge 520. And Garmin has now launched a pregnancy mode, which adds context to the physiological changes your wearable will be recording. The correction uses its own basemap, built up using assorted data from morebarometric altimeters. Yo! 3D Speed Calculates speed using both the elevation change and horizontal movement over ground. Not only does Garmin's watch-heavy focus lend itself to widgets, faces, and data fields, but the amount of apps available in the store is also impressive. I would add one to the consideration. Ive been using Runtastic Mountain Bike for a couple of months. The Venu Sq q offers similar features albeit doesn't offer any sort of smart assistant integration. As a smartwatch, the Versa 4 has payments, apps, notifications, and support for Google Assistant and Alexa smart assistant. It also offers a music player with the pricier Venu Sq Music model, and that does get you offline playlist support for Spotify. Do you find this pace chart to be accurate in your training vs. race paces? The app draws a line, as the crow flies, from point of dead battery to the recharge point, end of trip. Feb 20, 2017. I use NRC for the guided runs and Garmin/Strava for accurate tracking. Sure, you have the Vivo range which incorporates some wellness aspects and attempts to be more beginner friendly, but by and large, the company is aiming to provide you with the ultimate wrist companion for when you're exercising. Many third-party apps will shake hands with Fitbit, allowing you to pass data for workouts, calories, and other information between them. Elevation data is terrible on phones though (always adds about 20%), whereas on something like a Garmin it's very accurate. It isnt that great in the Strava app either so I now use the Wahoo fitness app to log my ride and provide me with a file to upload. The only thing Strava has given me is lip service and has done nothing to address the inaccuracy of their calorie burn inaccuracy. Based on the data from Mapmyride and myfitnesspal, I lost the weight. The main reason for caring about route creation in either Strava or MapMyRide, over dedicated route creation apps, is about route discovery. Almost 10 mph difference! Heres the link to Harvards calorie chart: https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-and-weight-loss/calories-burned-in-30-minutes-of-leisure-and-routine-activities. Also, when I look at the route in Strava, it is really zig-zaggy, which is why the distance is nearly doubled. So far, so similar. not entirely sure if Strava works it out based on their own algorithms and the route points, or takes the data from the device. Of course if it really is 35 miles and 4400 ft of elevation Im quite chuffed . #2. I visually checked some other segments and i think that the differences would be the same. Everything else is clearly won by Strava, My strava app never boots straight to record a ride it always goes to the friend feed. When you choose a Garmin heart rate monitor, you get sophisticated training help without the added weight of larger equipment. Edge 1030 offers you the distance between your actual effort and the KOM, your PB, the best of your strava friends and the last of your efforts. I took a short segment (1.64 km) where i knew that the numbers are wrong and lidar data is freely available. Garmin is recognized for delivering the most in sleep cycle analysis and measuring SpO2 overnight when it comes to sleep. Heart rate is a staple of both sets of devices, but when it comes to sports there's no arguing with Garmin. There are plenty of route creation apps/websites that are certainly better than the MapMyRide web version (which again looks like it hails from 2013). We have a wide range of Garmin heart rate monitors and cycle computers, including the Garmin Forerunner 920XT and Garmin Forerunner 735XT, so that you can stay on top of fitness technology. It brings all the features from the Sense (GPS, ECG, stress tracking, skin temperature), and puts it in a wristband form factor. I keep my phone mounted on my handlebars and like to glance down to see my speed. I used my gamin edge 25 every day and trust its accuracy to record my distance , time in the saddle and elevation . In this review, we put the Garmin Forerunner 405 and the Suunto T6C heart-rate and GPS watches through the wringers. May 21, 2017. I know these are just estimates but Strava suggests that I burn half as many calories on the same ride as MMR does which seems excessively different for an estimate. On the health tracking front, the Vivoactive 5 does all of Garmin's stock tracking of metrics, with sleep, stress, blood oxygen, and energy level monitoring. So the difference in height readings doesn't Heart rate monitors worn on the wrist are regarded to be less reliable. Fitbit and Garmin devices will also track VO2 max, which is called Cardio Fitness Score in Fitbit devices although our testing found it to report a little high. Thanks Giles. Is Strava absolutely accurate or is it all just relative? I have a half marathon in 10 days, will have to go old style and check my speed at every kilometer mark I'm afraid. This is either presented in a daily calendar format or as a list of activities. Strava just told me I ran 3.6 miles in 15 minutes. According to watchOS 8, Apple Watch sleep tracking is a system for monitoring nightly breathing rate. In particular I like it when it tells me the number of calories that I have used (helps with the coffee and cake stops). (and the speed curve often shows weird numbers, like having velocity spikes up to 42 km/h which I know couldnt be right). I write entertaining articles about road cycling: gear reviews, training advice. NRaaS Retuner: Trying to Disable Scan Sim. Other has it with music, etc. 5.1 miles. At least the accumulated data was not lost. The gamechanger are dual frequency receivers that are now, most likely thanks to Coros, in many newer devices (but not in older one as F6). I look forward to it being available for us non-premium plebs . If not, I will change the edge 1030. More on that shortly. My duotrap S on my emonda bike and a garmin on both my fat tire and mountain bikes. Hi! Thats good information to know. According to the research, in the cycling world, Strava has a greater number of segments than Garmin Connect. See who posts feats of super-athletic endeavour. I had an Edge 520 before and it worked fine, but sometimes it lost the segment. It's impossible to rely on the speed indication during a race for example. And Fitbit has added a new continuous Afib detection feature, that will scan your heart rate for signs of atrial fibrillation, and alert you if you need to get checked out. We run in dense forests with a lot of trees, elevation gain and distances from 5km up to 30km using GPS+GALILEO, 1 second recording, software is 23.84. The Garmin Venu 2 ($399/349) is the company's most smartwatch-like option while the Fitbit Sense 2 ($299/279) offers the best features Fitbit has to offer on a smartwatch. above. Based on my kids who are doctors, a nephew and a couple of friends who are docs and bike riders, I followed Mapmyride and NOT Strava. Finally, pretty much all Garmin watches let you hook up a chest strap, which is not an option on Fitbit trackers. Since you're here, Monty would also like you to check out. Fitbit still manages to offer one of the more rounded and easy-to-use fitness platforms. I was running with two friends wearing older Forerunners that did not have any issues. Garmins work fine as well, syncing via the Garmin Connect app. Fitbit has six main wearables all with clear remits. Both forms of GPS and data recording rely upon the accuracy of the unit and the satellite - and this varies dramatically between all units - phones and cycling computers. I followed mapmyride and myfitnesspal. I am Saad Dastagir, an enthusiast of smartwatches and fitness trackers. If you click through using links on the site, we may earn an Even if youre not particularly competitive, its surprisingly interesting to compare your times with others, as well as tracking your own progress as you train more. A lot of the rotue is under trees around the edge of the park, which might throw out the gps tracking. DEM's are typically made from lidar data. Using a GPS app 'significantly decreases' battery life on a phone, whilst the cycling computer is designed with this purpose in mind. If you are into this sort of stuff (humour me, Ill assume you are), then Strava will be right up your strasse. It is big in the US Pacific Northwest and where I live in Mont Tremblant Canada.it has the pluses you like on each of the ones you reviewed and is missing the minuses of each. Unfortunately it's not good enough, it has huge consequences in terms of speed calculation. I think it depends on whether your GPS has a barometric altimeter. Im think that when I can ride again, I will use Strava for wheel, MMF for feet. And Ill be honest, I interact most with the website version of Strava when Im writing posts for this blog rather than day-to-day ride recording, analysis and social. I've made a small comparison of altitude (uphill and downhill) accuracy of different tools for tour planning. In terms of general wellness, we think Fitbit has the edge here thanks to the simplicity of the data and the way resting heart rate is presented although you won't be missing out on any data if you choose Garmin. Whereas if it has 1 meter vertical resolution, your route might go up and down by 1-meter "stair steps.". I took up running for the first time at the end of last Only started running again this year. It usually make more harm than good. Garmin's fitness tracking is excellent, with steps, sleep, and activity minutes all logged by its devices. What you do get is more analysis and credit for clocking up workouts. Maybe this requires a lot of calculations and the device goes mad. Their route planning approach does sound good. For me thats a massive plus. Would love to see what people think now about the free options on both Stava vs MMR? Of course, fitness tracking is Fitbit's bread and butter and it's pulled out in front recently. Im probably moving over 100% to Strava soon as more of my friends use it. Trek Domane Rebuild: Tools and Parts List, Strava vs MapMyRide: And The Overall Winner Is. I just started doing Spring Garden & Kelly drive since I started going over 10 mile distances for the marathon training! BA1 1UA. Which is Strava. The Venu Sq 2 is a square version with a color display that's more affordable than the round Venu. Distances though seem within a few % whatever you use. Apps these days are pretty smart - most can display much of the fitness data we're used to seeing on a cycling computer: speed, distance and elevation. To get the Strava data into Fitbit, download the GPX file from Strava (on your PC/Mac), and upload to MapMyRide, which will then push into Fitbit. On my garmin 305 edge a route shows a distance of. While both systems have advantages and disadvantages, they provide various fitness tracking data, smartwatch functionalities, and hardware options. Could be either or both out though. The Versa 4 tracks pool swims and uses its heart rate monitor to unlock features like workout intensity maps and fitness level scores. I use the energy calculations on Strava and MMR, and while Ive noticed that theyre close for running, theyre wildly different for cycling. There's a wide range of cycling apps capable or recording rides, and uploading straight to an online platform - and as a result the cycling computer is becoming redundant in the eyes of many. The discrepancy is the worst Ive seen Huge difference in pace, distance and elevation. BTW, their customer service is great if you ever have a question or are sometimes an attack of computer stupids like I often get. Shimano 105 vs Ultegra: Is It Worth It To Upgrade? 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