How she said Frank lost his temper? Is there a way to post a screenshot? Never would have thought to refer to the quality as lightweight but thats exactly the right term.). He returned to Paramount for the revival of The Twilight Zone (2002) as writer and executive producer. and pursue a career in writing comedies for television and film. Ira Steven Behr (born October 23, 1953) is an American screenwriter and television producer, best known for his work on Star Trek, especially Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, on which he served as showrunner and executive producer. 301 to 306 several times since the DVD came out. Check our last chat with Adam Egypt Mortimer (Daniel Isnt Real). she has the wherewithal to find that door to the outside, unbolt, unlock and leave it. But the effect one screenwriter can have on a film, or even a television show, should neither be understated nor underestimated. "'I'm not doing it,' [he said], but I'm just saying that you shouldn't do talking heads. The season 3 finale should have been split into two longer episodes to do it justice. Example: Heughans Jamie has a run-in with what is seemingly a bear in Common Ground.. Ships from and sold by turntostart (seller since 2005). This is the exact reason why we have the blog, to help people figure out that why of it all . All true. It just didnt interest me. You can click here to find out where its playing at a theater near you. Episodes of Outlander written for television by Ira Steven Behr. Although there wasnt enough time to go into the episode in depth in What We Left Behind, Behr promises that its just one of many deleted segments that will appear on the documentarys eventual Blu-ray release. In North Carolina (shooting location: Scotland), Jamie and Claire build a home on 10,000 acres called Frasers Ridge. Hes got a huge heart, she once tweeted, and hes called her everything from a great advice giver to an extremely nice person., Two Northern Inuits play Young Ians (John Bell) dog, Rollo. Thats when I started to realize, Gee, you got to get serious about this thing. I believe that part of you lives still. My gut rings with a resounding, no. I dont know, maybe its just me but her characterization just feels thin. Balfe (in Allegiance) had a special assist from costume designer Trisha Biggar in hiding her pregnancy. Look, everyone told me that we would find what the doc is about and I would be the guy to find it, says Behr. The previous seasons were rich in wonderful muti-layered characters: Black Jack, Dougal, at that time Galis. Why is that so cool? Nope. We had Voyager, which was doing plenty of tech. I never felt the lack of this in the books, perhaps because in the books, we are WAY more in Claires head than we could possibly have been in the show? He joinedOutlander simply because his friend Ron Moore, well aware of his talent, asked him. Usually ships within 4 to 5 days. I have read each book several times and could not imagine anyone else portraying the main characters. Since then he moved on to produce a wide range of programs in a variety of genres, including Bob Patterson, Dark Angel, Alphas, and Outlander. Skip to content. As far as Toni Graphia is concerned she is 100% capable in my opinion. Thank you for reading! ), and while talented, she just cant make up for the loss of Behr and Kenney. But I dont believe that level of writing has been matched by Outlander yet (except perhaps the confrontation between Claire and Frank in The Battle Joined,which, oddly enough, is written by none other than Ron Moore). I saw the truth. Many people sing the praises of Toni Graphia, but she was responsible for Freedom and Whisky, which gave us the warm fuzzies, but was a storytelling mess (how many days are there between Christmas Eve and Christmas, again? While the Outlander world may be Ron Moores sandbox that is generally filled out by his staff of writers, its the small details each writer brings to the table, such as pouring out Claret, that defines the fabric of that worlds reality. I miss the excellent directors from S1 and S2, although Matts directing debut S3E13 was phenomenal! Hes ruthless, but also shares a bit of a soft side when he shares a heartfelt (if not conflicted) conversation before he plunges his knife into Lieutenant Foster. I agree that Ira is missed. Whether its the one act play of The Garrison Commander,or that incredible scene with Dougal and Lieutenant Foster in Prestonpans,one always knew what they were getting with Iras work: professionally written, expertly crafted, inventive and textured words that could be translated easily to the screen. Outlander: Season One - Volume One (Blu-ray + UltraViolet) by Caitriona Balfe Blu-ray . That being said, did you enjoy the back half as much as the first half? Better yet, what the heck is the point behind her conflict with Claire again? Its interesting to try and figure out how time weighs on a person, she says. ' Behr was rejuvenated after producingHarry Dean Stantons final film, and he was eager to redirect that artistic zeal into What We Left Behind. The best dramas throw in a humorous episode every so often. Posted on June 25, 2016 by Sarah Ksiazek in Anne Kenney, Ira Steven Behr, Production Videos, Ronald D. Moore | Leave a reply Executive producer Ronald D. Moore and writers/producers Anne Kenney and Ira Steven Behr take us behind the scenes of the return (again) of Black Jack Randall, brotherly visits, and leading up to Culloden in Outlander . When something otherworldly is happening on Outlander, its almost always accompanied by the Stones theme. Trisha really worked with getting the costumes early, slightly bigger-looking and more voluminous so that we could hide things under, says the actress, now mother to a baby boy. I totally agree with you. I know the immediate counter-argument is to say that Ron Moore is the showrunner and its his vision that has to be translated on screen. Yes, I liked season three too. The Garrison Commander also let us see what I consider Claires flaws as well. Ira's work on DS9 was largely under-appreciated during its run because it was so vastly different from the original vision of Gene Roddenbery, creator of Star Trek. I agree that Outlander has probably become a little more lightweight than normal. After season 2, it seemed that several fans were happy to see Ira go. (season 3 Galis to me was ruined. Thanks for the very kind words! The little we did do was was a pain money-wise. Were gonna remaster this whole thing. While its certainly not the aim of the documentary, the best way that Star Trek fans can demonstrate their love for Deep Space Nine is by checking out What We Left Behind on the big screen next Monday. The smoke has not totally cleared yet, he says. Thats what we want to do. When I look at the homeless problem that were currently dealing with in Los Angeles and probably all over the country, yes, its kind of weird that we did Past Tense and said it was five years away. Some actors turn to their phones or head to their trailers once cameras stop rolling Heughan and Balfe horse around! Two classic Star Trek villains return, but maybe theyre not the baddies we once thought they were? Outlander has established itself as quality programming. While What We Left Behind is filled with new interviews with cast and crew (Brooks included), the doc offers an approach that Star Trek fans will find fascinating. Wouldnt it be cool to get the band back together? At the panel DS9 showrunner, Ira Steven Behr said he was attracted to the story pitch from writer Marc Scott Zicree because of how it dealt directly with racism, as well as how it was "about. Did we get ANY of that notion from the script? The scenery was spectacular, the writing and acting were spot on and it made me want to go to Scotland very much. Outlander Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Of course there are PLENTY more examples I could rattle off, but the idea is that the more descriptive one can be while using the rules, the more detailed the character and the deeper understanding one could have of that character. Behr described the fast production turnaround as insane but Behr wrote or co-wrote some of the most important episodes in the Dominion arc, including "The Jem'Hadar", "The Search", "The Way of the Warrior", "Broken Link", "Apocalypse Rising", "In Purgatory's Shadow", "By Inferno's Light", "Call to Arms", "Sacrifice of Angels", "Tears of the Prophets" and the final episode, "What You Leave Behind". It drove me crazy. I was shocked by the brothel scene as well, but I saw it as a way to show what an imbecile Prince Charles was. But theres just something special about a guy who just writes good television for the sake of it because it interests him. ( Which I did!) So it cant be wedded. You didnt think of that at the time.'. Its one of the most memorable visual cues from Outlander ever. At the recent OutlanderCon in Las Vegas, it was truly notable how many times the actors mentioned Metin Huseyin and how much they loved working with him. To me, it seemed like a golden opportunity wasted: They could have shown so much in that scene. Her work on the show is good (youre right about the amount of days between christmas and christmas eve but thats more of a technical error that I can overlook). Id love to see a similar article about the directors. In a recent podcast interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Ronald D. Moore was asked about Outlander, specifically why there weren't numerous spinoffs already because of its success. The Ballad of Roger Mac chronicles the Battle of Alamance Creek, which pits Jamie honoring his commitment to the Crown against his fellow Scots. Send us an email and we'll get back to you. She falls deeper: Claire: You are not the first soldier to be changed by combat. In The Search, Claire looks for a kidnapped Jamie with the help of his fiery older sister, Jenny Fraser Murray (Laura Donnelly) who had given birth only days earlier. I felt like the new writers were lacking some of the passion and energy of S1 and S2. Its the same as it has been the last couple seasons in that I no longer day-to-day showrun it; the showrunner is Matt Roberts, who was with us from the very beginning of the project. When I was on TNG season three, it was Max [Grodenchik] who played one on Captains Holiday, but I just was not a fan of them. Corporal Hawkins comes by, gives her a good kick to the stomach at BJRs insistence, Dougal bursts in for the rescue and Black Jack demands that he bring Claire back or else the will hunt them all down to death for harboring a fugitive of the King, regardless of title or where they are. Deep Space Nine was the third series in the franchise, running for seven seasons before delivering its finale episode, "What You Leave Behind" in May 1999.The episode has been praised by critics and viewers . BJR: But truth carries a weight that no lie can counterfeit. Dui is the better actor, but hes not the ferocious dog of the books. Graduate of Lehman College in New York City, Behr studied Mass Ira Steven Behr was born on 23 October, 1953 in New York, New York, United States, is a Television producer and screenwriter. Not to mention the huge bonus of his being an extremely talented writer. I feel like when OL is not at its best its because the writers are sticking TOO close to the books. But, explains EP Moore, In the book, that character was already dead by this point. You know, that tech talk in order to justify the time traveling? [2] Although the Ferengi were first introduced in the first season of The Next Generation as a potential major antagonist, they proved unsuccessful, and in subsequent seasons became an occasional source of comic relief. I find myself doing such things garish work until I no longer recognize the man Ive become. The collaboration of writers Anne Kenney and Ira Steven Behr is a masterful collaboration for episode "The Hail Mary S2 E12. Jeopardy! Boss Drops Big News on Ken Jennings & Mayim Bialik Hosting Schedule, Ask Matt: Merediths Meh Greys Farewell, 9 Most-Watched TV Events Ever, Including the M*A*S*H Finale, Night Court: Faith Ford Breaks Down Her Joyous Guest Star Appearance, Friends Reunion as Courteney Cox Receives Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame, Copyright 2023 NTVB Media, Inc., All Rights Reserved, Stolen Youth: Inside the Cult at Sarah Lawrence, Top 25 Things to Stream in March: Ted Lasso, Yellowjackets & More, Outlander Season 7 Wraps Go Behind the Scenes With the Cast. One of my goals was to remove as much of it from Deep Space Nine as I could. But when you say that most episodes are mini-movies, are you referring to the first two seasons? Adding to that reinvigoration was Commander Benjamin Sisko himself. He thought UPN did not really want the show, and that it was not a good fit for the network. Its even one thing to include all the bit points the books have to offer (see the back half of OutlanderSeason 3). If Im being honest, I have not rewatched any of the second half yet. I totally agree that I would have loved to have seen it. I know youll do it, and well have a great script out of it.. But I will be back.. While I didnt always agree with Iras take on the material, in the end I believe the show benefitted from the push/pull in the room between the book people and the non-book people. to have seen that scene before they killed off Frank. His diverse talents and experiences as a writer led him to the position of executive producer late in the third season. A new beginning. Behr felt there were too many rules and regulations and felt creatively trapped, so he left The Next Generation after a year. We talked about starting an Indiegogo campaign to kind of force the network to say, Hey, look at all the money theyre raising But its just not going to happen. But, if you posted in the Clan Gathering on Facebook, I would definitely be able to see it there. Ballad also marks the death of Jamies godfather, Murtagh. How exactly did she get from a woman of mystery, an activist to someone who bathed in blood and raped young boys? I think both those things are probably going to happen and hopefully well be able to say something about it before too long. Time travel wound up being a key element in one of DS9s most famous episodes, the fifth season Trials and Tribble-ations, timed to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Star Trek. His rescuing her and how their saving grace was that they were in the eye of the hurricane which took them to shore and the picture went up and up showing the whole hurricane.- just loved that. Tinkering beyond the sell-by date leads to heartache for all parties involved. The day can't arrive fast enough for many Star Trek fans; on May 13, the documentary What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Star Trek: Deep Space Nine will beam into 800-plus movie theaters nationwide as part of a one-time-only Fathom Event. But the show's canon said that baseball died out in 2042, as society simply moved too fast for the bucolic sport. Behr went on to write a total of 53 out 176 Deep Space Nine episodes, more than any other writer. Whether its a simple scene wielding an ax or a choreographed fight sequence, Heughan has proven adept at both. How do you get there? Instead, I find myself the watchmen of a squatly, ignorant people, prone to the basest superstition and violence. Brad Gullickson is a Weekly Columnist for Film School Rejects and Senior Curator for One Perfect Shot. So I would love it, but something would fundamentally have to change either cost wise or Star Trek wise, which just isnt going to happen that would make them say, Okay, roll up the sleeves. Lottie Vanderbeek played her as high camp, Mommy Dearest like. [2], Behr married Laura Feder, who is credited as choreographer on three episodes of Deep Space Nine and one episode of Voyager.[3][4][5]. We can only hope that Matt and Toni will continue to write and contribute throughout the run of the series. We look at the history of Starship registry numbers and why the latest may be a controversial addition to the canon. Filmmaker Ira Steven Behr co-directs and produces the documentary, 'What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Deep Space Nine.' Previous experiences are never truly over, as the past has a way. Which would help characterize her nonsensical ill feelings towards her mother. I kinda wish she would have kept that bolt so she could have used it to give . I liked most of season three but felt two episodes, The Doldrums and Creme de Menthe dragged a bit. The change was the result of a facet removed: Ira Steven Behr. 307 to 313 after the first watch. I wish each book was given given 16 episodes like the first season told in two eight part editions. [1] He studied at Lehman College in New York City. We just went with it. [2] Behr continued to work on television dramas, throughout the 1980s, among them: After several years writing and producing television, and while still a staff writer at Beyond Reality, Behr was hired as a producer during Star Trek: The Next Generation's third season. I still loved III, but definitely felt something missing which I couldnt put my finger on. Now, at the time, I was like, Do we need this? I would interview the actors. I was just thinking about how could I shake it up, he says. Why? The Garrison Commander is the sixth episode of Season One of the Outlander television series. I actually appreciate that you disagree with me. Until finally we get to the whole point of this mental web BJR has spun to a perfect tee. Instead of being clever and cautious, Claire instead, goads BJR by bringing up Jamies beating by him. Its a comforting thought to imagine that, after all these years and far beyond all those distant stars, Benny Russell is still dreaming of us. I loved season 1 and the depth to which the characters were developed. Was it the new writers room? I wish we had recorded those. 4 is my favorite, Ep 6 had a lot of the hesitation and unknowing of their rejoined relationship = a lot of questions and answers to come. Fergus and Ian were adorable and needed their own show, but even they couldnt erase the others. Finally a lot of action, moving right along. He gave off a lethal combination of clinical sadism and artistry. Ira continued: And thats when I really got into the character and started to come up with all of these little pieces that interested me It was the small details: the pouring of the wine out the window, the line the truth bears the weight that no lie can counterfeit. I mean there were things that I just discovered along the way that made it these little things that started to fascinate me and I realized just what a complicatedI never really thought about Black Jack much or that he was a complicated character, except for that he had a wicked dark side to him. I must say however, that I so enjoyed Season 3. Not only that, but it takes an unprecedented level of communication and understanding of vision to take a massive project like Outlander from vision, to paper, to film and, finally, to our screens. Its the Black Jack we know and love and love to hate., The opener, The Battle Joined, would be the last episode for rascally Rupert (Grant ORourke, above, with Duncan Lacroix as Murtaugh), executed by the redcoats after Culloden. For Star Trek fans, thats one of the true joys of DS9. I thought that I might be the only person whom missed the contributions of ISB to Outlander. Obviously, its about the 20th or 21st century. Starz "Prestonpans" details that stunning, bloody, and controversial victory for the Jacobites over the British. Then we cut to this room in like 1959 or something and to a bedroom where Benjamin Sisko wakes up in his starleet uniform. "Avery had made this big deal about [the documentary]," says Ira Steven Behr, DS9 showrunner and, alongside David Zappone, director of "What We Left Behind". That first season set the viewers expectations very high and I feel the same depth was not given to season 2 or 3. Diane I totally see what youre talking about here. What conversations have you had about expanding the show beyond that, whether it's a season seven or spinoffs? He is telling her right from the beginning. It was expensive to do what we did. Now, pretend youre having a conversation with someone whos never seen Outlander, and describe BJR or Dougal (using examples from those episodes alone) WITHOUT saying what they look like, what they wore, what their profession is, or their role in the show. Is Ira the only one capable of creating a scene like this? I do not keep track of writers. We still have a month before the Blu-ray comes out and then therell be this, that, and the other thing, that Ill still have in the front of my brainor at least, in my brain. Behr is not out of the past; hes still actively treading upon it. And if its the anti-Outlander, wouldnt that make Geillis the anti-Claire? Why is she crazy? Additionally in watching BJR, it made me afraid for Frank being involved in Intelligence and interrogations in WW2 as Claire mentioned. Ira added the perversion. Hope he never returns. As for Allan, Vlahos says he has a darker past and is trying to find his way in the world.. As far as 2.02 I was not a huge fan. This is where Claire becomes trapped in BJRs game. Cool, right? Diana created Dougals menace. The audience as well as Claire knew that in their first meeting BJR tried to rape her. I love the show and will watch no matter what but I do miss the original writers who are gone. We decided that Jamie could not put on the red coat, that Jamie had to be forced to put on the red coat, says EP Roberts. Hes quite a sweet dog with a mellow personality.. Thank you!! Its the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Plus, Ira gave us the honeypot and even my husband laughed out loud for that one. Yes he is definitely missed. To me, Season 4 just didnt have that magic (The Battle Joined being the exception). The two other ships in the same storyline the Porpoise and the Bruja were used previously in the Starz pirate drama Black Sails. Behr was involved with most of the early Ferengi-related episodes, and introduced the concept of the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition and wrote most of the rules which appeared on the show. The back half were primarily written by the new, less experienced writers. No, no, no, no, no way. She doesnt have any announced projects so its hard to see why. Neither of them worked on Season 3 as far as I know. In terms of some of the things you said, I think you are completely entitled to your opinion but I would be remiss if I didnt mention a couple of things . Unboxing the Outlander Season Six Collectors Edition Blu-ray, Outlander Executive Producers Ronald D. Moore and Maril Davis Will Be At San Diego Comic-Con With For All Mankind, Outlander Returns to Fife for Season Seven Filming, The Outlandish Confabulation Continues at San Diego Comic-Con, Outlander TV Series Official Site (Starz). That was my first thought. Behr also had a significant role in the development of the Ferengi alien race during his work on Deep Space Nine. How do we get back to that? He mimics emotions, he can fit in anywhere, and thats not Black Jack, says executive producer Matthew B. Roberts. Tragically, DS9 is not available in HD and, despite an impressive restoration of Star Trek: The Next Generation some years ago, Behr is not optimistic that DS9 will ever receive the same treatment. [9], In February 2009, Behr was named head writer for the Starz TV series Crash (based on the Paul Haggis film) as it headed into Season 2, which aired in the fall of 2009. My opinion the second half yet rewatched any of the series my finger on i miss the original who... 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