I live in the Seattle area and rust is not an issue, so I just cant answer what commonly rusts on your car as I just dont experience that here. I had the full blown check up done by the dealer in the fall other than new brakes, everything was fine. Subaru is recalling certain vehicles because a fuel pump may fail, causing the engine to suddenly stall. Just replace rubber line, or is there more involved? Thank you Bernadette. Ok, if you have spark, and it did not start and run for a few seconds as you sprayed starting fluid directly into the throttle body opening while someone else tried starting the engine, then you need to see if the air is sucking in or blowing out of the throttle body opening while cranking the engine. But without knowing where the leaks were its all just a guess on my part. Started the car and looked around saw fuel dripping from two hose on the passenger side of the compartment nearer to the front of the car. Very helpful info. Gasoline smell when fuel tank is above 1/2 full. Specifically, where the neck meets the tank. Is it the grade of the hose, or the length, or the clamps? There are 2 very typical, minor but very strong smelling fuel leaks we see lots andoftenthis time of year. At the end of the day, it ends up being the technician that is blamed for the fuel line leaking again down the road. Today when I entered the vehicle, I noticed a strong gasoline odor. I cannot buy another one from a company like this that has so little regard One of the first symptoms of a problem with the fuel pump is a loud whining sound. I took my car in for the recall to Gilman North Subaru after a day at the beach. But yesterday it started smelling again. Gotta hold Honda accountable. There are 2 There, a technician will install a new fuel pump with a higher density. For those that have not done the recall try to run as much gas out of the tank as you can when you take it in. Low fuel level can be a bigger issue in cold weather, up or down hills or around corners, than be okay when flat? All Rights Reserved. I just posted a response/scenario/question on the head Gasket thread (I guess will be #1037), but then I found this thread which may be more related. Secondly, Im disappointed that the official repair to this problem is replacing it with more rubber hose. When I took it to the dealer he advised me they would have to drop the fuel tank to do repairs. This is the second recall related to fuel pumps on Subaru vehicles. Late model Outbacks that had the fuel pump recall completed had a little smell after the repair, but that quickly goes away. They said nothing about the fuel level; I only heard about it the day before when the dealer called to confirm the appointment, and it was just dumb luck that I was almost out of gas. Toyota Fuel Pump Recall The recall affects nearly 2 million Toyota and Lexus brand vehicles, nearly as many as the company sells in America in a year. Subaru has initiated a voluntary regional recall to replace specific engine fuel lines and hoses. First of all, theres nothing simple about this fix. I'm nearly 100% certain this is the case for the Ascent as well. Ive taken it to my local shop and they couldnt diagnose. Thought it would go away after a few days driving with windows open. dealer says the tank is rusted..$1200. I was told that this is a common Subaru problem. We still dont recognize that sign in. I am not sure we would all be better off in a GM with a faulty Ignition switch where people did die, even though the defect was acknowledged, or how about a Toyota with acceleration issues or the fact they couldnt keep a floor mat from killing people. Since 60k Ive had to replace the fuel lines twice at 1200$ and 800$. Hi am writing from Montreal area I have a 2004 Forester (75,000 km). Is there gas on the garage floor? At that time I also was having a problem with the remote start. Now which is at fault, the fuel pump or its controller? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I think someone on this forum mentioned a fuel pump seal not being seated correctly after their recall was performed. This is a common problem for the 2008 Corvette. settlement administrator or your attorney for any updates regarding I am at 156k miles and dont think fuel lines have ever been replaced. have any ideas what maybe cuasing a strong fuel smell on my subaru b4 twin turbo 2001? Thanks for the great information. There are many fuel lines under hood the cost depends on which one and the labor rates in your area. Next job is to replace a fuel hose that leaks when below 20F. I just encountered the dreaded fuel smell in my 2002 Legacy. If the leak in the tank is at the bottom of the tank the limit to how much fuel can leak out is how much is in the tank, if the leak is at the top or somewhere on the side such as the seam the limit to how much fuel leaks out is the level at which the leak is occurring. Reset your password. WebFuel Pump Recall and Smell of Gas in the Interior I got my fuel pump recall in the mail earlier this week for my 2019 and took it to the closest Honda dealership to have it You say it only affects 2000-2004? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So you understand #WVK-21 is a recall to the 2002 and 2003 WRX where Subaru redesigned the fuel line right? I opened the hood and the smell was so strong it made me sick to my stomach. Yes. SEE, I think it's a 15 pin plug and two wires change on the plug fro 95 to. The dealer is an idiot. If you dont have a check engine light, then gasoline fumes are still evaporating. When a car has fuel pump problems, the engine might not get enough fuel to run properly, or at all. Wife is happy now and what is better than that. I have a 99 Legacy with visible gas on engine. Although I enjoy the smell of gasoline (don't lie, I think we all do, right? All email addresses you provide will be used just for sending this story. Subaru says it is unaware of any crashes or injuries related to this issue. You can change these settings at any time. for informational purposes only. Another words if its a leak at the half way point the fuel can leak out until the level is below the leak. RECALLS! For its part, Subaru said it had no evidence the flaw has actually caused any accidents or driver injuries. I'm satisfied. What's more, there's not a single cause for a gas leak: Given the sneaky way the dealership tried to cover up the smell and insist there was no gas smell really tells you something about this particular dealership. Apr 30, 2021. Read the rules for instructions on custom user flair. Its ultimately your job to stay informed about your vehicle. The 2019 and newer. OTOH, I had pretty much zero odor after the impeller recall.my tank was at or below a quarter and the service team managed to do the work without spilling/splashing on the interior after they removed stuff to get to the top of the tank. He has ordered the fuel lines. Bringing the vehicle to Subaru with low fuel level is a good suggestion,definitely will keep this in mind . Fuel then runs down side of tank onto the exhaust. car still running, just shy of a 1/4 tank. It was lierally running out of the connection and laying on top of the hot manifold. Does anyone know who much it costs approximately to repair and it is just this one fuel line that is the problem. This will avoid clogging, reduce fuel flow, engine cutoffs and I didnt think that was to bad for a Turbo model running higher fuel pressure. Subaru is recalling more than 165,000 cars due to a fuel pump defect that can cause the cars to stall at speed. It would be best to replace the fuel line as sometimes tightening is only temporary. An auto shop ought to have a means of evacuating gas from a gas tank temporarily. But did they skip over another With the recent cold (-12 today here in Colorado Springs), I noticed twice this week the STRONG fuel smell driving into work. Youll smell gas until it is not longer overfilled. butif the car was leaking gas over the long weekend before the dealer looked (seriously?) However it started again yesterday. Dont believe this is ignition issue. I have a 2019 ex, It is not for all Insights. The smell should be coming from the engine, but not until it warms up. Your oil level will be high as well. Drivers who lodged the other eight complaints said their cars either lost power while they were driving them at low speeds or just after starting the cars. Thanks in advance. Okay I get it, paying for a repair on a 12 year old car is out of line. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. A normally functioning system may pull in fumes around you if they are excessive like they are in the winter months, this is why the recirculate feature is there, to stop fresh air from being pulled in. Went to Subaru again. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. There is a seal there that can go bad over time. Make sure you use the proper rated fuel line for fuel injection and the proper type fuel line clamps. https://reddit.com/r/hondainsight/comments/gwv18z/what_we_know_the_fuel_pump_recall_check_here/. Protect Yourself From Indoor Air Pollution, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. 6th time it starting running really rough, she push the gas pedal and Rev up and continued running. I have a couple of quick comments to add to this forum. I have a 2019 Ascent and took it to the dealership to replace a damaged tire and they said they could replace the recalled fuel pump. Thanks for the feedback. How do we ensure that changing the hose is going to make a difference permanently? If a fuel injector is leaking, it will allow too much fuel to dump into the engine. I didnt have a lot of time last night AND it was like 0 degrees. 2001 OBW with the exact same issue. I had the fuel pump replaced in my 2019 Highlander, as part of the recall, 9 days ago. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Four of Subarus models are involved in the latest recall reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. 2019 Assent Premium 8-Passenger Crimson Red Pearl with Ivory Interior, Convenience Package and Popular Package #2, 2019 CRP Ascent Limited w/#23 Built July 2018. The smell is very strong the colder it is. My local dealer wants to replace all gas lines for about $700; seems excessive. I have been reading all these blogs and have tightened clamps and I lifted the access compartment in my 99 legacy outback and I see or smell no gas on top of the tank Is there anything else or tricky spots that could be leaky????? Not enough cars are affected For Subaru to issue a recall, and same goes for class action. I took it to Speedy Muffler they checked it in every possible place, and there was nothing at all leaking, or any traces of anything (I also checked my garage floor, nothing). The Ive been breathing in noxious fumes for 3 winters now. It sat for a long weekend All of the hose clamps are installed upside down, not just one or twoALL OF THEM. Because my husband topped off the gas tank before we took it in, they had a large splash of gas in the interior of my car. This would be a NEWER/LATER manufacture fuel pump more susceptible to design or workmanship defects. Repair was fine. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administrations report on the recall says the affected cars were equipped with an impeller part of the cars Denso fuel pump that was manufactured with a lower density. As a result, the impeller can crack, leading to excessive fuel absorption and deformation. They've already performed the recall fix by replacing the fuel pump, but my car still smells of gas. Thats a tell tale sign that the fuel is going somewhere, but not the engine. 03-04-2008, 03:43 AM Warranty Issues & SOA Problems: 11: 07-31 Try again, then starts up. Since this is a newer OB and not a cold weather problem I have to post my question! A very dangerous situation! Just had a below 10 night here in Chicago and gas smell returned. I started the car, let it run for ~5 min, and the wet rubber hose was pretty easy to spot. To my knowledge there have been no deaths as a result of a fuel leak on a 2004 Forester XT, there is also no recall or campaign that I am aware of. Seems to me the 2.0 DIT is sensitive to overfill when it comes to crankcase said everything check out? You mentioned smoke testing from the engine compartment, I have no idea why? You had better have 6 hands to line all the fuel lines, intake bolts and all the other crap that gets in the way, up. I got it back pretty well detailed on the inside much cleaner than I ever get it. Great info. I got mine in the mail. August 3, 2021 In the third major recall of its year, Subaru has put out a call to repair more than 165,000 vehicles from its 2018-20 model-year lineup over a faulty fuel The fire may occur even while the vehicle is turned After you go through all the prompts it will give you the option to dial 4 to reach a customer service agent responsible JavaScript is disabled. down and ask him to replace this fuel line. We are not associated in any way with Honda Motor Company. I started getting the gas smell for last couple of days in my Acura RDX 2020, I checked NHTSA and Acura site, there are no current recalls for my VIN. The hose I found leaking,(about 4 inches long)was under the driver side intake manifold, below the spark plug wires. car sits in garage (unusual) for a few days during the big 22/48h snow storm w a lo temp of -10F.. 1 cup worth of gas puddled below a seam line-just shy of the rr passenger door never smelled gas but car stay out side I went to pick it up the following day and saw they had cracked the windows, but the smell is pretty strong and is lingering today still. I will write all this info. What is that about? Gas leaks aren't always easy to diagnose, since gas could leak from a number of places in your vehicle. This website is not intended for viewing or usage by European Union citizens. Fuel pump was once replaced under warranty. While I hope I can speak for all my fellow techs when I say we take utmost caution in trying not to drip any on the carpet, it's easier said than done with the ascent's design in particular. Very insightful, thanks for the feedback. Gas dries fast, which adds to the problem. The 05 Subaru Outback Xt does in fact have a fuel line that needs to have the clamp tightened on the drivers side under the intake manifold. Theyve been a GREAT help. Any fuel leak must be addressed before you drive it or its a fire and unsafe condition waiting to occur. status of any class action settlement claim. I was test driving the car after trying ti fix an exhaust system rattle and noticed a distinct fresh gas odor both inisde the car and outside as well. It was June and not cold. Retrieve your username. 2 Subaru places in Colorado want $300 to tighten the bands under the manifold. The clamp is upside down meaning you cant put a tool ( Phillips) on it to tighten it. 2002 Forester has had a long history of smell of gas in cold weather starts (below 10F). Im going to keep my fingers crossed and try some these suggestions.Please wih me luck. How to contact the manufacturer: Owners of affected vehicles should receive a recall notice in September 2021. Going to give the clamps a turn and call my dealer. Their answer was there is not protocol for this. They would not say anything else. If a Subaru has the fuel pump problems involved in the latest recall, chances are the driver of that vehicle will notice the engine running rough first. The fix: Dealers will replace the low-pressure fuel pump free of charge. I have A 2005 XT as well and have replaced the lines at 91k. I would do as suggested and look around for any fuel leakage front to back. All Wheel Drive Auto, LLC is an Independent Subaru Service and Repair Facility. There is a huge thread in the warranty section about the fuel smell issue. In some cases, the vehicle might not start at all, according to the automotive website Autoblog. This should result in less accidental spillage by the techs. Thanks for the input. I had my fuel pump replaced under the recall, this last Thursday. We learned while we were there they have to take out the back seats to be able to access the fuel pump. 2. Yeah, we scheduled our appointment for the recall replacement for our 2019 Outback and were told it would smell like gas for a few days after and to not have more than 1/2 tank when we bring it in. To try and help you understand how the new car and warranty of works. Part of the evaporative emissions system self check is a tiny compressor that pressurizes the fuel tank after the car has been off for about 4 hours. The group claims Subarus produced between 2013 and 2019 suffer the same defects as the 2019 recalled vehicles and should have been included in the recall. If I can get the fuel smell to fade in a day or two , itll be a good trade off. If you can smell it inside the car, its possible the fuel pump gasket is bad since it sits just behind the back seats. Wow my daughter has had this same problem for a few. This was my first Subaru and probably my last. Yes, after one my pumps were replaced. plan on taking a long highway scenic drive with windows open post fuel pump repair. When I'm not behind the wheel or the keyboard, you can find me exploring a new city on foot or planning my next trip. Glad I saw your post. Washington, D.C November 24, 2021 Mazda (OTCMKTS: MZDAY) has recalled 121,038 cars that may stall due to a defective fuel pump. Oct 2, 2010. As the leak location is at the top of the tank fuel leaking is highly unlikely while driving, most likely you'll get a gas smell while refueling. This may lead to a vehicle fire, increasing the risk of property damage, crash, and injury. recall WQG-43 for corrosion. Lastly the fuel pump is housed in side of the Gas Tank. One of two things happened a few drops of gas hit the carpet, or the o-ring that seals the fuel pump module to the tank was pinched and rolled. There were about 35k miles on the car when this started happening. If this is the problem, you're in luck. But there are other, less likely causes as well. Replacing tank would have been $1000+ and not fixed problem maybe. According to CarComplaints, Subarus engineers determined the problem is a deformed impeller. Is this normal? Subaru Fuel Line Fix: During the cold winter months our Subaru Outback has had a strong gas smell inside the passenger compartment. Thanks for your input! problem #1: likely still be unresolved brake line recall was for element exposure from gap in shield.. wouldnt that gap also expose my fuel things too? I have the service manual but cannot find a step by step on replacement. Subaru will notify owners, and dealers will replace the low pressure fuel pump, free of charge. Assuming I resolve the injector issue, what kind of replacement cost should I expect at a non-dealer mechanic? Another reason you may experience a burning smell coming from your Outback is oil on on Ascent Forums, The Largest 2019 and newer Subaru Ascent community & owners club. My hunch is that if the recirc feature is used the situation will improve. The dealer says it looks like mice have chewed on the fuel line(s). If you smell gas right away after the recall it could be that they spilled some gas. January 2022 Jason, MAZDA6 shuts down while driving fuel pump not monitored, may be no engine light etc. If you are the type of person that likes to squeeze in the last half gallon by making the pump click 5 times, know that your Tribeca was not meant to be fueled like that. The smells happens with the climate control in any position except off!! The pump is under the back seat. If you own a Subaru or Honda manufactured between 2013 and 2019 and have experienced engine problems such as reduced engine power, stalling, and/or engine shutdown due to a faulty fuel pump, you may qualify to join this investigation. Yea, that smell of raw fuel in the cabin is exactly that. Stay informed about recalls that might affect your vehicle using ourCar Recall Tracker. I had called Subaru customer service the first time. Let is sit for a little time. The Honda Insight, award-winning hybrid since 1999. Powered by consumers. 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