when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). Cordoba is a landlocked province, so its tricky to fabricate a claim. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. The best option is to wait for the Ottomans to declare war on some other neighbor. I can see the benefits both ways, but this is usually how I play it. The goal is that even when they move their capital into anatolia, they will not have direct land connections to their overseas provinces (hello 75% autonomy), and they won't be able to move across the strait over land without getting mil access from you. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. Once you declared war on Tunis, expand Fezzan in the desert itself and take the powerful coastal provinces for yourself. The Caucasus mountains provide a valuable defense. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to exp. While if they attack them with you not allied to said nation, it's that big country plus it's allies and then you can start a war with your allies against the Ottoman at the same time. However, the coastal areas are likely up for grabs. Destroy navy and beat up whatever army they dredge up. They don't get an infantry upgrade at 15 like western nations do. Thing is, I don't think there is an easy fix to this because, as I said, optimal play happenes as a consequence of how the game is designed. Conquer the World as the Ottomans etc. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Late game their units really fall off and while they are numerous, they're squishy. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. You can check the Ottoman's development and your own in the ledger, but a rough estimate based on experience and the dates you provided would put you at about ~500 development and the Ottomans at ~1000. Allies are arguably the most important point. As long as you own at least one occupation, Tunis will never be able to annex Fezzan, allowing you to vassalize it instead and use their cores against Tunis later. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. The Otto's will refuse that peace deal, but suffer a stability hit. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission to. You also take 60%+ of their trade income with this deal. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy. If you had a strong Russia, France, and Austria. Hit them early and try to divide their territory works great. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. I'd probably invade Ottomans when they're busy fighting multiple wars and you might even be lucky enough for separatists to break off small chunks of their empire. The way EU IV is designed, if you want to play optimally then you should use the minimum sized stacks needed to siege provinces, split your navy in order to cycle them against strong naval opponents and generally minimise the losses due to attrition. At this point, the war is won. I'm thinking No CB on Byzantium on day 1 -> vassalization of Byzantium -> Get PLC as an ally -> return all Byzantine cores is the most viable option now since otherwise their endless manpower just annihilates anything in their path midgame. A country Im supposed to take over is allied with a bigger and stronger country. You are using an out of date browser. After all, it was my first time playing this game. If you wanted to hit them tech 15 infantry backed by cannons would be good, tech 16 would be better, but they get a resurgence in the value of their cav at 18-19. I had a mighty Spain to deal with that expanded deep into North Africa and threatened my expansion plan. After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. Ally other countries that have navies. If you do that, the AI will continue building troops and go further into debt than today's Greece. In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. Alternatively, you may be able to ally with Russia. needs you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. To maximize your trade income, consider addingWealth of Nations to your DLC list! I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. aside from just taking quantity ideas myself, what can i do to counter this? The whole of the Bosporus should be your main target for conquest. The Ottoman army is pretty bad (compared to Europeans) after mil tech 15. Currently Spain. Take as much land as you're willing to take. Here are some of the issues I encountered, as well as how you can act on them, should the situation arise. with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. You can also try bringing other people in on your war. Valve Corporation. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. Look around Ottoman. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. All rights reserved. For example, in my Italy game I was fighting the Ottomans and their 200k soldiers with only 80k in the 1570's(no allies cause I just didn't stop eating). Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. The techs that give morale are HUGE (4, 15, 26, 30), and can give you a massive advantage in battle. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. The rest of Europe was functionally cowed because after the first war I could just keep fighting them over and over and over again without them putting up a huge response. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! However, you might have other priorities, and Tunis gains wiggle room. Just take the province when you fight a war with the state that happens to own it, like Sindh or Gujarat. Sadly its very hard because not only do they have quantity, i believe its +33% land force from ideas. I wasn't attacked even once during my sieges and once I scored 100% I liberated some countries and absorbed enough provinces to get me to around 100% over extension. Another front for you to not worry about! Fortunately, this is a coastal province, so you wont have to expand deeply inward. Ifni is a very poor province, so it doesnt cost much to take. Even if the Spanish took Ifni, you can take all the provinces in a single war. Save up some of the power to reverse the stability effects and war exhaustion and just keep hitting them. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy, which screws kebab over pretty hard. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. The only exception to this rule would be Russia and ONLY Russia, but that's cause of just the massive amount of troops they can put out, especially with quantity, allowing them to easily overrun the Ottomans in a war, though at a massive cost. Spain might lend a large army in Morocco, so be wary when and where you attack. Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. They guarantee the independence of Medina and Cyprus while Hejaz and Fadl are their vassals. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. . Decent generals, high morale and good army tradition can be of great help. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. If you have built up your nation in the 1650-1821, you should be able to handle them as Spain. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. Cookie Notice Occupy all provinces except one. Welcome to the third and final part of this Ottomans guide for EU4: The Ottomans made easy! Like my Burgundian Conquest run, where I was super rich and powerful, but my nation was not much bigger than France is at the start. The Ottomans are in the best position to come back from a humiliating defeat. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. Press J to jump to the feed. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when the, fires. If Medina still exists, you can likely vassalize them to speed up your conquest. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. If you are humanist support rebels in suppressive countries, if you are an absolute monarchy destroy the revolution. Only having 49k is little. Form Russia and own all of Asia by the end of 1820, defeat the Ottomans as Hungary and get Jerusalem and Mecca. They still haven't taken out mamluks. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. i play a lot vs ottomans playing as hungary, which is weaker than poland/plc, but very similar. The Ottomans are hard to take down the longer you leave them undisturbed. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This might not be as helpful as all the comments but I'll just post my observations: I've noticed ai Ottomans tends to overexert themselves near late game with nonstop wars. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. Also always have a military advisor, either a 5% discipline one or a +10% morale one. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. Venice still owns Crete, and Genoa still has a bunch of islands in the Meditteranean, as well as outposts in Crimea. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. They will then continually build more troops there for you to destroy. If they have a weaker ally (Tunis is often good for this), DOW on them; this will drag Ottos in, but without the benefit of their powerful allies. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Fortunately, theres a good chance these guys are allied. , but dont complete them just yet. Make sure you get enough ships. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. For your finances throughout this run, trade is instrumental. If this doesnt bring their disloyalty above 50, do so to make the annexation process easier. You can assign far-flung territories to trade companies to help you bring in some extra ducats. I believe I read one time that war exhaustion goes down in relation to your demands, so you if demand nothing then you hope their country explodes in rebels. Then you peace out, take nothing and watch the rebels spawn. Valve Corporation. So what i prefer to do is basically base race my opponent and take down any forts blocking my way to their capital. The intent is for you to play along and improve your skills and understanding of the game, and have fun all the while! You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. Ottomans should get . Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. I always have this anxiety about attacking them; even though they fold like paper tigers every time. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. Poland/Lithuania, Russia, France, Austria, can be very useful if you gang up on the The Ottomans. So keep picking at small stacks. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when theReligious League Warfires. You must log in or register to reply here. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. By writing about games, he can bring two of his great passions together. Just getting all of the arriving divisions to the front by rail is enough, not to mention everything else. Fight them after tech 14, they will no longer have pip advantage from troops. I took Tripoli, Jerba, Susa, and Tunis and gave everything south of that to Fezzan. However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. The better player you are, the more attention you pay to all of this aspects. Keep that Navy under constant pressure. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. Early to Mid-game, wait for them to go to ear with Mamluks - this typically exhausts their manpower and gives some time to move in and siege up territory before they can move their armies back from Egypt. Thanks anyway :). Luckily for you, the AI in Eu4 is incredibly stupid, so you'll likely only face a portion of their full military at first, and this is a wonderful time to stackwipe a third of their forces. Ottomans also tend not to upgrade forts so it's relatively quick sieging. I'd take Constantinople and Edirne so you have a land block of the Bosporus and the Ottos can't move their troops through. What (military) ideas do you have? They have claims on the provinces, which means that if they get the siege, you wont be able to take it in the peace deal. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. At this point, the war is won. They will either leave you alone while they fight their war, at which point you can just focus on sieging down as many forts as you can, or they'll come straight to confront you, leaving themselves vulnerable in the other front (which means less area to call reinforcements from, income diminishes, war exhaustion goes up). The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. Stack up on military ideas and policies (for example quality + religious gives extra morale and siege ability) so despite my lower army size they are vastly superior in quality. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. Thanks for the help :). You have expanded into what is fairly worthless, empty, lands on the steppes, whereas the Ottomans have most likely expanded into the rich cities of Anatolia and Egypt. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt9GyYZn0y3vuzouyDCpMrYXebe4nUyOz PATREON https://www.patreon.com/chewyshoot REDDIT https://www.reddit.com/r/chewyshoot/ NEW MERCH https://chewyshoot.creator-spring.com/ Check out the VOD channel to catch streams after the fact https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNhobr_D_kg9pV8jQbfAolA#EU4Guide #EU4Ottoman #EU4Ottomans My Mod Pack https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1868840012Consider rating the pack if you enjoy it so others can find it easier in the workshop!__ Join the community Discord server https://discord.gg/RWUbeJZ Keep up to date on the channel via Twitter https://twitter.com/Chewyshoot Subscribe if you haven't already so you can keep up to date with the channel, and ding the bell to get notifications when we upload!__Check out EU4 at the Paradox website https://www.paradoxplaza.com/europa-universalis-iv/EUEU04GSK-MASTER.htmor on Steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/Europa_Universalis_IV/__Videos and associated commentary are intended to be transformative in nature and thus fall under the \"Fair Use\" laws of video use.This video may contain some audio from the \"Themes of the Old World\" mod on the Steam Workshop for Europa Universalis IV, with the audio created, and licensed to Chewyshoot, by Utopia.Find and support them on Spotify: https://sptfy.com/utopia So be prepared. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. For more information, please see our You basically become unstoppable if you avoid unfavourable offensive terrain battles. I was just bribed to stop being corrupt. You can also expand into the Horn of Africa at this point in time. Although they may be weak, theyre sitting on at least one province we need to restore the Caliphate Cordoba- and they may have taken Sicily, where we need two provinces: Palermo and Messina. They started taking ex-moldavia area and are now beating up Venice, I get what you mean, their base from the provinces is 107 while mine is just 38 :(. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. Take forts. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. I control most of Northern Africa and Central Europe. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). . If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. Make your way towards the Holy Roman Empire to go there where the real-life Ottomans couldnt: Vienna. Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. What military ideas do they have? Over the years, hes developed a similar passion for writing, which he mostly gains during his studies. , that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. I never take military idea groups, and I've still managed to take all of their provinces in campaign after campaign. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. Without forts, their lands will capitulate very fast and leave them indefensible, whether vs the likes of Ramazan/Mameluks or even yourself in the next war. Then you declare war on Byzantium a few years after 1444 and pray the Ottomans do so too after you. Press J to jump to the feed. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) What can you guys suggest? It was something like 250/month ,but thanks to owning both North and South America I had huge treasury plus huge monthly income so it was no big deal. Did you find this guide helpful, or did you run into trouble anywhere? This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. I encountered some issues in my own run that couldve jeopardized the progress of this guide. I'm the 3rd great power in the world and they're the 1st. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. Take at least, More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. . The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. In the late game, at military tech 19 (for infantry) and tech 18 (for cavalry) The Ottoman units will have less unit pips compared to the western tech group. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. If they also lag in mil tech you've got 'em on the ropes. Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? It just depends on actually winning the first war. Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. How else am I supposed to stop them if I can't use military force? Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. Like for example, if you get quality, economic, and offensive finished, that's +15% discipline. We cant have that! In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. In that war, I took Constantinople and Edirne to stop them from crossing the strait without going around. East Africa is a great target. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Your vassal may have some cores left in my case, Makuria had a core on Dongola, so use that and declare war. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Soon enough, Ottoman Empire was just busy quelling rebellion rising in half the provinces and all I had to do was siege. Punch Syria out of them if you can. They are superior early on. Through, ideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The AI is really pretty terrible, even a mediocre player shouldn't have that much trouble beating them. The best way to beat this navy is to snipe their fleets which they like to spread out since Mare Nostrum. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. Find the first and second installments of this guide here: Since this Ottomans EU4 guide is so RNG-heavy, youll likely be running into situations that dont play out as planned. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is Thatta, in India. JavaScript is disabled. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy - Late Game We're in the home stretch! It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. great project. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. You are using an out of date browser. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. You can beat them as an immediate neighbor or as someone who doesn't border them for centuries. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. Total is plus 83%. The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. Meanwhile, you shouldve gotten Sicily sieged down by now. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Note :In The runs with Prussia and Great Britain I beat the Ottomans in the last 10-20 years of the campaign, And another thing that I forgot to mention. Sometimes even the mighty Ottomans get in over their head. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. Might as well ask them to be your vassal! But it is what it is and it's still a great grand operational war game in my view. When you attack a mountain, or a fort, or -worse- a mountain fort, you have a good chance to be defeated. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. I prefer to leave Ethiopia alone for most of the run, and simply conquer around them. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. JavaScript is disabled. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing theJanissary Coupdisaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. Most nations will want to be your vassal; conquer the remainder. Whereas we matched the historical Ottoman sultans in previous episodes, well one-up them in this one! Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. You can also take some holdings on the Arabian peninsula to make future conquest easier. Youre very powerful around this time, so allies might be willing to become vassals. In my game, I had a problem. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. The mera can also gain land rights, but they have more important modifiers right now, such as the integration of nobility and stronger duchies. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. Revanchism might have something to do with that https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. I would recommend defensive idea group and drill your armies !!!! Press J to jump to the feed. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. Simply declare war for your permanent claim on Caffa, and take your cores back. To win the Ottomans you'll need quantity (I'm not talking about the ideas). While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. Arabia shouldnt give you any issues. The Ottomans have both quality and quantity, which is what makes them so scary. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. 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